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Spring 1979 Issue

Over-Snow Vehicles

The story of over-snow vehicles and their use at ski areas might start with the end of World War II when surplus army tracked vehicles were bought by some and put to work. Not too successfully, however.

But, for the real beginnings of a true over-snow work capability you have to go to Grass Valley, California, where E.M. Tucker and his sons developed the original Sno-Cat. By 1946, Tucker was offering six models from the new plant in Medford. They began with his Sport Roadster at $3025 and topped out with the soon-to-be famous “Freighter” double drive (no front skis) which was used in connection with the International Geographical Year at the South Pole.

During the next twenty years, numerous changes were made by Tucker. Also, during this time, Thiokol (Thiokol’s “Sprite” in 1964), Nodwell, Bombardier, and others had joined the race. It wasn’t until the late sixties, however, that trail grooming vehicles underwent major additions and changes. Thiokol introduced the award winning “Packmaster” which began a trend in design and operator comfort in which there has been no let up. Also, Tucker was offering their first rubber tracked vehicle while slowly phasing out the steel-on-steel pontoons which were so expensive to maintain on Eastern boiler plate. Coincidentally, Valley Engineering plugged a big hole in the attachment arena by offering their highly successful Powder-Maker.

Vehicles were now fancier, faster, and more powerful but were not being designed for the increased hours of use and heavy amounts of blade work being done by many areas. Thus, hydrostatics entered the picture in the form of Pisten-Bully, and another era emerged, not just in design but in gargantuan price tags. Forty thousand dollars for one piece of rolling stock seemed incomprehensible. Still, area operators soon learned that it was worth the bucks to be able to groom uphill as well as down. Then Thiokol brought forth their Hydromaster TM that sported a constant speed diesel. In the meantime, Bombardier had joined the “bigness” race and produced their humongous ‘302’. Not to be outdone, Tucker went mid-engine, dropped their dauntless slant-six, and graduated to the super cat class with big V-8 gassers. They also introduced a Detroit diesel powered 9700 pound work horse, the 2740.

This season showed improvements in the two newest entrants in the field; the Miller Kool Cat Hydrostat and White’s Trail Boss which sports a control console right out of “Star Wars.” Being editors of an up-beat publication, we at SAM decided the time has come for a summary of what’s currently available to the (hopefully, not-too-confused) area operator.

Engines

The most logical method of comparing engine size would seem to be cubic inch displacement and corresponding horsepower. This is OK for regular gasoline engines providing the horsepower is all measured by the same method. We (hopefully) show SAE horsepower at the flywheel. However, when an engine (diesel) is turbo-charged or “blown,” it no longer “naturally aspirates” or breathes and the number of “cubes” is no longer a valid comparison of power output. For that reason we have also listed the engine torque, which is a direct measure of the usable power, regardless of displacement.

Base Price

“Price isn’t everything.” Just as the base price of a car doesn’t always include white sidewalls, neither do those shown include all accessories available, and there are a bunch of them. Generally, the figures are for a basic vehicle which may include hydraulics for attachments but none include the attachments. When preparing your shopping list, be sure to keep a sharp pencil handy. You may find that air conditioning, heated mirrors or FM radio are thrown into the base price. Other more important items such as track adjusters, tilt cab and various engine combinations should be discussed with your dealer.

Dry Weight

This should be the vehicle weight in pounds without fuel, passengers, driver or attachments.

Dimensions

Without accessories unless indicated otherwise.

Ground Pressure

The method of measurement varies somewhat between manufacturers but is a good indication of what the empty and loaded pressure would be at the belts with O penetration. Tuckers are shown first at “O” then at 7” penetration.

Clearance

The minimum under-carriage ground clearance on a level surface.

Fuel Consumption

Most of these figures are the text book type. Your best bet is “ask a man who owns one.”

Cab Noise

Noise level measurement is becoming an ever increasing concern of all types of people and agencies. There are established limits for noise intensity based upon the number of hours of continuous exposure one may experience. We will have more to say on that topic in a future issue. Those shown do meet OSHA standards.

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Fuel Capacity

The gallons of fuel that can be carried in the tank supplied. In most cases, extra capacity is available at additional cost. Look for at least 8 hours operating time on one filling.

Turning Radius

This is another item of general non-concurrance but should be the distance in feet from the center of a circle circumscribed by the outer edge of the outside track. Ideally then, twice the radius would be the least width trail of parking area a bare vehicle could be turned around in.

Tires

All tires are 6-ply unless otherwise shown.

Hydraulic Capacity

This is pump capacity in gpm on the hydrostatic drive machines.

OTHER FEATURES

Thiokol has upsized their old 1404 IMP to the new 1450. By stretching the overall length by 15 inches and increasing ground clearance by 2½ inches, the larger cargo deck can carry an additional 1000 pounds. Engine horsepower was dueced to 104 via six cylinders.

With Tucker’s introduction of the ME (mid engine) series 3 seasons ago, they now show 32 different models. The ME series is taking over in popularity within Tucker and comes with 360 cubes and an Allison 4-speed automatic as standard equipment. Generally, the ME’s will cost you 10% more at the checkout counter and add another 1000 pounds at the scales. Bombardier has added a fourth model with its entry into the hydrostat race. Essentially the same as their ‘302’ the hydro features electric 2-speed shift, insulated front windshield and of course, diesel power. Millers’ Kool Kat hydrostat has made several changes in axle bushings and bearings plus increased leg room in the cab. Their ‘soft’ steering controls, heated mirrors and cab-controlled track adjusters are worth checking out.

Europe’s Pisten-Bully is the lightest machine in the class which is easily handled by their Mercedes 6 diesel and 2-speed hydrostat. The electronic steering, controlled through an adjustable height steering wheel, adds to numerous creature comforts in their deluxe cab. The White year ’round Trail Boss is an excellent application of an already proven mid-west farm tractor. The current model 150, four wheel drive, is about to be upstaged by its cousin the ‘210’. This higher horsepower snow tractor will feature 4-wheel lockup to provide even greater traction and climbing ability.

Prinoth intends to offer various models of European origin for the next season. We’ve listed what is currently available in their home territory for comparison.

NO. CYLHPDRY WT. #BASE PRICE1L IN.W IN.H IN.PAYLOAD #TRK WIDTHGROUND PRESSCLEARANCEENGINE CIDTORQUETRANSMIS.FUEL CAP GALFUEL CONSUM GPHSTEERINGCAB NOISE DBATURN RAD.TIRESTOP SPD MPHHYDR. CAP. GPMPRESS. PSI
COMPACT
BOMBI457237512,0008’65’106’3100023”.87/1.2312’21600 CC(98) F814 SPD MAN11’2N/ADIFF.NA4’4.6×10820.5
PRINOTH P4 P 1544213209’106’86’0660850 CC (52)4 SPD MANDIFF.
INTERMEDIATE8(2×4)6023108’211’74’91300 CC (79)2 SPD AUTO13.2.50DIFF.17
IMP 1450 P156104305019-21,00011’47’06’3240031’2.56/.869200 F3 SPD AUTO24N/ADIFF.N/A10’4.80×81024
SNO CAR 13428135576022-25,00015’18’07’5190028×681.05/.7712318 C5 SPD MAN (3-AUTO)*442.5-3AUTOMOTN/A18’6SOLID
STANDARD
SNO CAT 15428135597026-29,00015’58’07’5190028×76.95x.7215318 C5 SPD MAN ••442.5-3AUTOMOTN/A18’6SOLID
SPRYTE 1200C6132655029-33,00012’109’107’0300045’2.74×1.011300 F238 @ 18003 SPD AUTO422-5DIFF.N/A154.50×12106.9
SNO CAT 16428135627029-32,00017’78’07’5190028×92.75/.6315318 C †5 SPD MAN ••442.5-3AUTOMOTN/A18’6SOLID
SKI DOZER SV2526132726031 →13’19’87’72000411.19/1.5614’2300 F238 @ 8003 SPD AUTO ••233-4DIFF.N/A12’5.30×121021.5
PACKHASTER 21006132613030-34,00014’1012’36’72300057.57x.6911300 F ††238 @ 18004 SPD MAN ••452-5DIFF.N/A15
SNO CAT 17428135667035-42,00018’28’07’8230028×92.82/.6614’2440 C †5 SPD MAN ••343AUTOMOTN/A20’6SOLID
PRINOTH JR TURBO4100506012’612’67’51550601 SPD222.1HYDROST16
SUPER37 →
SKI DOZER SV3028245910037 →13’111’87’7300053.93/-11’2460 F366 @ 26003 SPD AUTO ••495-6DIFF.N/A12’4.50×121016
SNO CAT 278240870040-4418’211’17’9230046×9214’2440 C †5 SPD MAN ††44AUTOMOTN/A28’6SOLID
HYDROSTATIC SUPER
KOOL CATD225T11,60047 →13’812’117’11NA60.6713466A JD589 @ 14001 SPD554-7HYDRO864.50×1210 8 PLY12+653-4000
WHITE TRAIL BOSS8D17514,50048,00019’1012’69’66-10,000435 ±19636 CAT3×6 POWER SHIFT944-5AUTOMOT ARTICUL.8515’243.0×6719.2202200
HYDROMASTER 370020010,000+52 →14’1112’58’42300057.8616426 AC488 @ 17002 SPD SUNSTRAND45HYDRON/A4.50×12 8 PLY11
PISTEN BULLY 39.17006186926055-6013’912’98’9330061.5113346 MB2 SPD + REVERSE742-3HYRDON/A6.00×131013.745
BOMBARDIERN/AN/AN/AN/A13’111’87’7300053N/A11’2N/AN/A2 SPD49N/AHYDRON/A4.50×1210 8 PLYN/AN/AN/A
PRINOTH BIG TURBO6D160704015’513’27’52200676120 CC (375)223.2HYDRO16
BOMBARDIER – NO ACCESS. INCL. (1) KOOL CAT – WHITE – 95% (2) WITH LIGHT †DIESEL AVAIL *AUTO AVAIL 3 SPD
TUCKER – THIOKOL – STD. ACCESS. INCL. ••2 SPD DIFF AVAIL ††8 CYL & DIESEL AVAIL **AUTO AVAIL 5 SPD

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